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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #202
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-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Thu, 24 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 202
-
- Today's Topics:
- ARLX007 2 meters a life saver
- Honda ignition recall - now NOISE!! (3 msgs)
- QSL ROUTE FOR GS0KPW??
- RFD: rec.radio.pendantic
- Sound Blaster stupidity
- Super Morse 4.10 is out!
- two meter frequency allocations
- US License Examination Opportunities Scheduled 2/23/94 to 5/9/94
-
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- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Feb 94 16:06:21 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ARLX007 2 meters a life saver
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX007
- ARLX007 2 meters a life saver
-
- ZCZC AX39
- QST de W1AW
- Special Bulletin 7 ARLX007
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 Feb 94 17:19:46 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!rwiley@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Honda ignition recall - now NOISE!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Dan,
-
- I was wondering what (if anything) you (or anyone else for that matter)
- might have heard about the recent lines of GM automobiles. The time has come
- that I am thinking about a newer automobile. I would certainly like to come
- to the dealership knowledgeable about any problems of RF noise, RF shutting
- down the internal engine computer, ect. There really *should* be a printout
- somewhere of such problems. Maybe Ralph Nader will do that next. 8-)
-
- Thanks and 73 de Bob, N8MMR
- --
- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
- =-= Bob Wiley, N8MMR Internet: rwiley@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu =-=
- =-= P.O. Box 3164 Amateur Radio Packet: N8MMR@W8CQK.OH.USA.NA =-=
- =-= Columbus, Ohio 43210 =-=
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 Feb 94 16:24:39 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.service.uci.edu!biivax.dp.beckman.com!phoenix.dse.beckman.com!ccgate.dp.beckman.com!dplabriola@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Honda ignition recall - now NOISE!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <wier-230294203421@198.213.12.234> wier@merlin.etsu.edu (Bob Wier) writes:
- >Subject: Re: Honda ignition recall - now NOISE!!
- >From: wier@merlin.etsu.edu (Bob Wier)
- >Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 02:34:20 GMT
-
- >In article <23FEB199413162911@zeus.tamu.edu>, tskloss@zeus.tamu.edu
- >(SKLOSS, TIMOTHY WILLIAM) wrote:
-
- >> or clicks) that varies with rpm, then it is ignition noise. Try a filter
- >> from RS on the power leads, other than that buy AMERICAN.
- >>
- >> -tim
-
- >Sorry tim - that's not the solution. There has been a group of Jeep
- >Cherokee
- >owners who have been trying for YEARS to quiet up our vehicles, and so far
- >absolutely nothing works. In our case, the noise seems to be coming from
- >the fuel injector circuits/computer...
-
- Just helped out a friend at work with one of these Jeeps... It appears to have
- been the fuel injectors. I provided him with several of large clamp on ferrite
- slabs. He applied them close to the control box. It appears that they use some
- type of chopper drive on the stepper motors/solenoids within the fuel
- injectors.
-
- The "beads" are approximately 1" long, .25 ID and .6 OD with a 60 ohm
- impedance starting in the low MHz... available from FairRite if I am not
- mistaken. They come as two halfs in a plastic holder so they can be added
- without taking connectors apart.
-
- The noise level was significantly reduced... D. Labriola (N6CNB)......
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 13:05:59 GMT
- From: math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!col.hp.com!srgenprp!news.dtc.hp.com!hplextra!hpscit.sc.hp.com!cupnews0.cup@news.acns.nwu.edu
- Subject: Honda ignition recall - now NOISE!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Bob Wier (wier@merlin.etsu.edu) wrote:
-
- : Sorry tim - that's not the solution. There has been a group of Jeep
- : Cherokee
- : owners who have been trying for YEARS to quiet up our vehicles, and so far
- : absolutely nothing works. In our case, the noise seems to be coming from
- : the fuel injector circuits/computer...
-
- : I get a continueous S9 on my HF rig in the car - I even get noise on my
- : factory installed FM radio!
-
- : Bob Wier, East Texas State U., Commerce, Texas
- : keeper of the Adobe Photoshop, MC68HC11, ICOM mailing lists
- : wier@merlin.etsu.edu (watch for address change)
-
-
- How about fitting, say, a Mazda 3.9 litre turbo-Diesel ? There are a
- number of firms modifying petrol (gasoline) Range Rovers in this way as
- a means of fighting 13 miles/gal and $4/gal here in Britain, so I wonder
- if there are similar operations in the US despite your much cheaper
- fuel. If the problem is so intractable, and a fix is so desirable that
- people have spent years on it, then this could be an appropriate
- solution.
-
- I've noticed that all of the different spectrum monitoring vehicles
- that I've looked at in various countries were Diesel powered, even the
- light car based ones. It is one way of fixing all the ignition and
- fuel-injection interference problems with absolute certainty in one
- move.
-
- I just had to filter the clock and wipers in my Diesel 4x4.
-
- Cheers
- David
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 Feb 1994 04:08:33 GMT
- From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!computer_ctr.sonoma.edu!vannuysd@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: QSL ROUTE FOR GS0KPW??
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I worked GS0KPW on 10/31 during the CQWW contest but don't have a
- QSL route. Can you help?
-
- Please send e-mail.
-
- David
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 00:28:48 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
- Subject: RFD: rec.radio.pendantic
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <762016156snx@skyld.grendel.com> jangus@skyld.grendel.com (Jeffrey D. Angus) writes:
- >
- >In article <CLnyL1.Hx3@news.Hawaii.Edu> jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu writes:
- > > >
- > > > For Christs (sic) sake Jeff. Give it a f*****g rest.
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
- > If you're going to note corrections to my english,
- > then how about noting the correction to my language too.
-
- `Sic' does not denote a correction. And I editted out a few letters
- because I got flamed in the `a' in December for saying the `a' word.
-
- >
- > > Context. Context is everything. Go back and check it yourself and you'll
- > > see why I got upset at the original poster.
- >
- > I watched the entire episode from the start on rec.radio.cb. From what
- > I saw you got your wannabe basket-weave belt accessories in a knot when
- > someone posted a list of 6 MHz frequencies and then you went ballistic
- > when Dana joined in the discussion.
-
- I went ballistic as soon as I saw the 6mhz freqs posted as a place for
- pirates to use. I was debating with the poster prior to Dana joining in.
-
- As I've said, I've got an entirely different outlook of this topic due
- to my Coast Guard days than anyone else one here. I don't expect you to
- understand or appreciate my views. And from what I hear from other
- Coast Guard units, what I experienced while at Monterey and here in
- Honolulu (willful interference during distress communications) was
- mild.
- Willful interference on the ham bands doesn't jeopardize lives like it
- does on the aero and maritime channels. Get out of the narrow world that
- you live in, Jeff; there's more to the RF spectrum than the ham bands.
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Feb 94 11:33:05 CST
- From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!cdsmail!timbuk.cray.com!hemlock.cray.com!andyw@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Sound Blaster stupidity
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <N4HY.94Feb22150159@runner.ccr-p.ida.org>, n4hy@runner.ccr-p.ida.org (Bob McGwier) writes:
- >
- > Creative Technology DSP folks have given me an unbelievable reply. The
- > [Bobs obvious disapointment with CT's myopic world view deleted...]
- > to be more open about its architecture and/or the most versatile for our
- > applications.
-
- This must be some holy creed inside CT, since they did the same thing
- to *BSD developers a while back, so most developers switched efforts
- to the Gracillis card. Gracillis were more than willing to let people
- develop software for their card - if they have a comparable product,
- I suggest you contact them, you may be pleasantly surprised.
-
- Be sure to post repetative, boring posts of your progress so that
- we may compare it with the Hambluster :-)
-
- --
- andyw N0REN/G1XRL
-
- andyw@aspen.cray.com Andy Warner, Cray Research, Inc. (612) 683-5835
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 16:48:49 -0500
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!altitude!dino.hip.cam.org!user@ames.arpa
- Subject: Super Morse 4.10 is out!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I read a note somewhere that 4.06 was available from some FTP site.
- Well super Morse 4.10 is out and available on Compuserve and possibly
- somewhere on the NET. If you can't find it, let me know and if someone
- tells me how to get permission to PUT it on their FTP server, I can send it
- there.
-
- 73 de dino
-
- --
- """""""""""""""""""""
- | Dino Moriello """"""""""""""""""""""
- | PO BOX 105 Internet: dino@CAM.ORG """""""""""""""""""""
- | Radisson,Quebec Compuserve: 76120,1472 Tel.: 514-974-0773 |
- | CANADA J0Y 2X0 Packet: VE2DM@VE2FKB 819-638-8281 |
- """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
- Please E-mail replies since I can't always read the USENET postings.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 23:03:25 GMT
- From: world!drt@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: two meter frequency allocations
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Jeffrey Wittich (jwittich@b4pph107.bnr.ca) wrote:
- : > Our University station is struggling with the student association for
- : >funding and as a result we put a 2 meter- cross band- remote base on
- : >the air. At the time it seemed as if an acceptable input frequency
- : >would be in the miscellaneous (uses) allocation. We put our input on
- : >145.775 ( an unused frequency in the area). Soon we we pounced on by
- : >the local coordinator who said we were in violation of part 97 since
- : >what we had was not a remote base, rather a repeater.
-
- : >However, the local coordinator has said that any radio that uses any
- : >form of automatic T/R switching constitutes a repeater!
- : >Therefore, he contends we are in violation of part 97?
- : >In any event we change frequencies today, but are there any opinions
- : >on exactly what constitutes a repeater.
-
- : >In my opinion, when the law was enacted, a repeater was construyed to
- : >be a remote system with inputs/outputs in the same band and not a box
- : >which is turned on or off before and after use.
-
- : >73-- Gary
-
- : Well, lets see what part 97 says under definitions:
-
- : (35) Repeater. An amateur station that automatically
- : retransmits the signals of other stations.
-
- : Yep, looks like you got a repeater, but so what? I can't find any thing
- : in part 97 that you are violating anyway. If you are causing interferance,
- : and are not coordinated, you would have to deal with it, but from what
- : you say, I see no violation here.
- :
- : Can anyone else?
- : 73. -=Jeff=-
-
- Yeah. 145.775 is out of repeater subband. See 97.205b.
-
- -drt
-
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
- |David R. Tucker KG2S drt@world.std.com|
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Feb 94 17:58:43 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: US License Examination Opportunities Scheduled 2/23/94 to 5/9/94
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- AMATEUR RADIO EXAMINATION OPPORTUNITIES
-
-
-
- *****************************************************************
-
- Special Note: Amateur Radio licenses usually arrive between 8 and
- 10 weeks after the test session. The FCC considers their
- processing time to be 90 days--from the date they receive the
- application. The FCC usually receives the application one
- to two weeks after the test session (once the VE Team and the
- coordinating VEC have completed their processing).
-
-
- Note: Codeless Technician to Technician w/HF upgraders (who pass a
- Morse code test) will not receive a new license from the FCC.
- The existing Technician license plus the CSCE conveying the Morse
- code test credit is the only documentation issued for use of
- the additional HF privileges.
-
- *****************************************************************
-
- The following test session information is provided by the
- ARRL/VEC for the upcoming six to eight week period. For
- further information, please contact the test session CONTACT
- PERSON at the telephone number provided. If necessary, you
- may contact the ARRL/VEC at 203-666-1541 x282 for additional
- information. Electronic mail may be forwarded to the ARRL/VEC
- via USENET at "bjahnke@arrl.org" or via MCI Mail to
- MCI ID: 653-2312 or 215-5052.
-
- Although the test session information presented here does
- not indicate whether walk-ins are accepted or not, most test
- sessions do allow walk-ins. We encourage you, however, to
- always contact the CONTACT PERSON at the telephone number
- provided so that the VE Team is aware that you be attending
- the test session.
-
-
-
- STILL NEED TO PREPARE FOR YOUR EXAM?
-
- If you would like information on how to become licensed; or
- how to locate Amateur Radio clubs, instructors, licensing
- classes and/or Novice examiners in your area; please contact
- the ARRL Educational Activities Department (EAD) at 203-666-
- 1541 x219. The EAD can also provide information on
- recommended study materials. Electronic mail may be forwarded
- to the ARRL EAD via USENET at "rwhite@arrl.org" or via MCI Mail to
- MCI ID: 215-5052.
-
-
- EXAM LISTINGS - DEFINITION OF FIELDS
-
- STATE
- Test Date,VEC,City,,Contact Phone,Contact Person
-
- The SECOND field in the following listing specifies the VEC
- which is coordinating this examination. This single-character
- designator denotes the VEC as defined below. An "A" (for example)
- indicates that this examination is coordinated by the ARRL/VEC.
-
- For further information on any examinations listed, or if you do not
- find any examinations listed for your area, you may contact
- any of the coordinating VECs below.
-
-
- A = ARRL/VEC, 225 Main St, Newington, CT 06111; (d) 203-666-1541
- The 1994 test fee is $5.75.
-
- X = Anchorage ARC, 2628 Turnagain Parkway, Anchorage, AK 99517;
- (d) 907-786-8121, (n) 907-243-2221 (or) 907-276-5121
- (or) 907-274-5546
-
- C = Central Alabama VEC, 1215 Dale Dr SE, Huntsville, AL 35801;
- 205-536-3904
-
- N = Charlotte VEC, 227 Bennett Ln, Charlotte, NC 28213;
- 704-596-2168
-
- D = Great Lakes ARC VEC Inc., PO Box 273, Glenview, IL 60025;
- 708-486-8019
-
- E = Golden Empire ARS, PO Box 508, Chico, CA 95927; No phone.
-
- G = Greater Los Angeles ARG, 9737 Noble Ave, Sepulveda, CA 91343;
- 818-892-2068, 805-822-1473.
-
- J = Jefferson ARC, PO Box 24368, New Orleans, LA 70184-4368;
- 504-831-1613. Test fee for 1994 is $5.00.
-
- K = Koolau ARC, 45-529 Nakuluai St, Kaneohe, HI 96744;
- 808-235-4132
-
- L = Laurel ARC Inc., PO Box 3039, Laurel, MD 20709-0039;
- (d) 301-572-5124, 301-317-7819, (n) 301-588-3924
-
- M = The Milwaukee RAC Inc., 1737 N 116th St, Wauwatosa, WI 53226;
- 414-774-6999. Test fee for 1994 is $5.00.
-
- H = Mountain ARC, PO Box 10, Burlington, WV 26710; 304-289-3576,
- 301-724-0674
-
- P = PHD ARA Inc., PO Box 11, Liberty, MO 64068; 816-781-7313
-
- R = Sandarc-VEC, PO Box 2446, La Mesa, CA 91943-2446; 619-465-3926
-
- S = Sunnyvale VEC ARC, PO Box 60307, Sunnyvale, CA 94088-0307;
- 408-255-9000
-
- T = Triad Emergency ARC, 3504 Stonehurst Pl, High Point, NC 27265;
- 919-841-7576
-
- W = Western Carolinas ARS VEC, 5833 Clinton Hwy - Suite 203,
- Knoxville, TN 37912-2500; 615-688-7771.
- The 1994 test fee is $5.75.
-
- 5 = W5YI-VEC, PO Box 565101, Dallas, TX 75356-5101; 817-461-6443
- The 1994 test fee is $5.75.
-
-
- EXAMINATION OPPORTUNITIES OUT
-
- 03/12/94,A,Belgium,,32-11439164,Ronald A.L. Torfs
- 03/05/94,A,England,,0462-812571,Leland Vandervort
- 02/26/94,A,Germany,,49-0-67253462,Stephen Hutchins, KN6G
- 03/26/94,A,Japan,,243-6092,Paul W Jackson USN
- 04/17/94,A,Saipan,,670-234-6323,David Hardt
-
- GUAM
- 03/20/94,A,Adelup,,627-646-7611,Harry Y Taguchi
-
- US VIRGIN ISLANDS
- 04/09/94,A,St Croix,,809-778-3156,Frank Jaeger
-
- *EOF
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: (null)
- From: (null)
- SB SPCL ARL ARLX007
- ARLX007 2 meters a life saver
-
- 2 meters a life saver
-
- Amateur Radio may have saved a life when Diana Carlson, KC1SP, used
- a local repeater to report a possible suicide attempt to police.
-
- Carlson, of Hudson, New Hampshire, was on her way to work at GenRad
- in Concord, Massachusetts, the morning of January 10, when she and
- another motorist observed a man climbing the railing of the
- Merrimack Bridge into the city. The man's auto was parked directly
- in front of Carlson.
-
- While the other motorist talked to the man, Carlson first tried a
- call on 146.52, which she knew was sometimes monitored by the
- Westford, Massachusetts police, then switched to the 147.120
- repeater in Billerica. Larry Garneau, N1QEZ, who was mobile,
- responded and passed the message to his wife, Virginia Garneau,
- N1QFA, who telephoned police.
-
- An officer of the Tyngsboro Police arrived in time to pull the
- 27-year-old man from the railing of the bridge.
-
- Carlson's husband David is N1JYX, her son is KA1VWX, and her
- daughter is KA1VUA.
- NNNN
- /EX
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 Feb 94 16:02:59 GMT
- From: news.moneng.mei.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!rdewan@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <199402231618.IAA20284@ucsd.edu>, <CLp1KE.Iz@hpcvsnz.cv.hp.com>, <2kietb$9bb@dancer.cc.bellcore.com>.spr
- Subject : Re: ARRL Repeater Directory
-
- In article <2kietb$9bb@dancer.cc.bellcore.com>,
- sohl,william h <whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com> wrote:
- >In article <CLp1KE.Iz@hpcvsnz.cv.hp.com>, Tom Bruhns <tomb@lsid.hp.com> wrote:
- >>William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM wrote:
- >>
- >>: I have a real big problem with the idea that there are deliberate errors
- >>: purposely induced into what should be a reference book. Maybe we should start
- >>: a "repeater directory accuracy project" to confirm all the listings in the
- >>: ARRL directory to see if content errors exist.
- >
- >My following post includes a layman's set of interpretations/opinions
- >relative to some legal issues...Bottom line, I'm not a lawyer, but
- >here's my opinion, treat it accordingly.
- >
- >First, I'm an ARRL member and a Local Gov't Liason (LGL) in the ARRL field
- >organization, but that doesn't mean I agree with all positions of ARRL.
- >I missed the initial thread of this discussion,but from the two recent
- >posts it appears ARRL has threatened legal action against someone
- >providing (or intending to provide) an "online" version of a repeater
- >directory. It also appears that ARRL has determined that some of
- >the data included in this "online" directory must have been taken
- >from the ARRL Repeater Directory because there are certain
- >identical pieces of data that were created (e.g. a deliberate
- >misspelling of a town name, callsign, etc.) as such in the ARRL
- >publlished directory to use as a means of identifying data from
- >the ARRL directory which has been used to create other databases.
- >The ARRL then claims that using that information is a violation of
- >their copyright on their Repeater Directory.
-
- <snip>
-
- Instead of getting hung up on legalities, let us look at from a
- rational/economic view point.
-
- Consider the following scenario. Assume that there is no method of enforcing
- copyright on lists of facts. Also assume that it costs money to get a list
- together. In absence of copyright, no one will be willing to compile the
- list as they will surely lose money. This is because the moment they get
- the list together, others will rip them off. The end result will be no
- handy-dandy list for us to use. We will be worse off for sure.
-
- So, what seems to be desirable is:
- - to let copyright be used to ensure that people who invest in collecting
- data get a fair return on their investment and
- - yet, do not let copyright be used to prevent any one else from investing
- money in compiling the facts.
-
- These two seem to be in conflict. Salting the list with false entries
- is a great way out as the presence of these erroneous entries in some one
- else's list is prima facia evidence that they have not gathered data
- independently and are just ripping off the list.
-
- So, in my opinion, ARRL is following the best strategy possible. If
- Yee's list is independently gathered then there should be and will be
- no problem whatsoever.
-
- Rajiv
- aa9ch
- r-dewan@nwu.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Feb 1994 16:45:39 -0500
- From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!pegasus.cc.ucf.edu!pegasus.cc.ucf.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2jt93e$ds9@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, <CLC4Dw.10E@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, <2juhv0$h56@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>รถ
- Subject : Re: Nude amateur radio clubs
-
- While contemplating bellybuttons William VanHorne spake thusly:
-
- > Hardly. If you're nude, you can't wear one of those nifty baseball caps
- > with your name and callsign on it. What's the point of being in ham
- > radio if you don't wear your baseball cap? Sheesh.
-
- > ---Bill VanHorne
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- Bill,
- Just curious, but I always thought that if you were wearing merely
- a baseball cap, with or without your name and callsign, you were
- generally considered to be nude.
- I guess it just depends on where you hang your baseball cap ;).
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- John Meaker
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- Disclaimer: I am not responsible.
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